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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3877</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s right on my route to work, but I&#039;ve never taken any photos of the immediate vicinity. The market &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/01/30/melting-pot-oakland/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this old post&lt;/a&gt; is a few blocks closer to my house, on East 12th as opposed to East 14th (i.e. International). The Dos Hermanos Bar and the Mitchell Hotel &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/12/todays-ride-home-from-work-in-four-photographs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this post&lt;/a&gt; are about 8 blocks down International toward Fruitvale, while El Gato Negro is about 12 blocks away, also on International. The recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/06/29/the-9th-avenue-terminal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photo of the 9th Avenue Terminal with San Francisco in the background&lt;/a&gt; was taken from an overpass on 16th Avenue about a block and a half from where the shootout took place, but it doesn&#039;t show anything in the area.

To update the (incorrect) info in &quot;Marginalia:&quot; the police shot and killed a guy who was reportedly shooting at them, and a bystander was wounded by some broken glass, but no one except the suspect was actually shot. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_12844899&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oakland Tribune&#039;s article&lt;/a&gt; has a bit more info, but doesn&#039;t answer the key questions of why the cops were stopping the guy, or why he shot at them. It&#039;s not a gentrified area, but I don&#039;t think of it as violent or dangerous either. The only obvious criminal activity that I ever see near there is prostitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s right on my route to work, but I&#8217;ve never taken any photos of the immediate vicinity. The market <a href="http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/01/30/melting-pot-oakland/" rel="nofollow">in this old post</a> is a few blocks closer to my house, on East 12th as opposed to East 14th (i.e. International). The Dos Hermanos Bar and the Mitchell Hotel <a href="http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/12/todays-ride-home-from-work-in-four-photographs/" rel="nofollow">in this post</a> are about 8 blocks down International toward Fruitvale, while El Gato Negro is about 12 blocks away, also on International. The recent <a href="http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/06/29/the-9th-avenue-terminal/" rel="nofollow">photo of the 9th Avenue Terminal with San Francisco in the background</a> was taken from an overpass on 16th Avenue about a block and a half from where the shootout took place, but it doesn&#8217;t show anything in the area.</p>
<p>To update the (incorrect) info in &#8220;Marginalia:&#8221; the police shot and killed a guy who was reportedly shooting at them, and a bystander was wounded by some broken glass, but no one except the suspect was actually shot. The <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_12844899" rel="nofollow">Oakland Tribune&#8217;s article</a> has a bit more info, but doesn&#8217;t answer the key questions of why the cops were stopping the guy, or why he shot at them. It&#8217;s not a gentrified area, but I don&#8217;t think of it as violent or dangerous either. The only obvious criminal activity that I ever see near there is prostitution.</p>
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		<title>By: ng</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the corner where the shooting took place correspond to your various blogposts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the corner where the shooting took place correspond to your various blogposts?</p>
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		<title>By: nnyhav</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>nnyhav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metaphor? When what&#039;s left of the bulbs approximates &quot;realite&quot;? (so there&#039;s no French accents, à la &quot;réalité&quot;, perhaps you can photoshop in a couple of crows perching while losing the extra &quot;i&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metaphor? When what&#8217;s left of the bulbs approximates &#8220;realite&#8221;? (so there&#8217;s no French accents, à la &#8220;réalité&#8221;, perhaps you can photoshop in a couple of crows perching while losing the extra &#8220;i&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3852</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless, it&#039;s a great picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless, it&#8217;s a great picture.</p>
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		<title>By: avoice</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3810</link>
		<dc:creator>avoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty emblematic of our present times I&#039;d say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty emblematic of our present times I&#8217;d say</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3793</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruth: I don&#039;t even think of what California has as a government anymore---it&#039;s more like a stopvernment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruth: I don&#8217;t even think of what California has as a government anymore&#8212;it&#8217;s more like a stopvernment.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth gutmann</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/07/12/real-estate-collapse/#comment-3782</link>
		<dc:creator>ruth gutmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot very well call this a metaphor for what has happened in the real estate market. It is, rather, a realistic depiction of it.

As far as possible I have been following the doings -- or undoing? -- of California&#039;s government. How long will it be until the governor and his minions come to their senses?  I think of the many people who are truly dependent upon a properly functioning bureaucracy.  How difficult it must be for them to get by and retain their hope that things must improve one of these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot very well call this a metaphor for what has happened in the real estate market. It is, rather, a realistic depiction of it.</p>
<p>As far as possible I have been following the doings &#8212; or undoing? &#8212; of California&#8217;s government. How long will it be until the governor and his minions come to their senses?  I think of the many people who are truly dependent upon a properly functioning bureaucracy.  How difficult it must be for them to get by and retain their hope that things must improve one of these days!</p>
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