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		<title>By: Carol Polk</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Polk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, perhaps avoice is thinking of the food commmodity program whereby the federal government dispenses all the food it has acquired through agricultural price support programs.  Lots of peanut butter, hot dogs, corn meal, cheese, milk, often eggs.  This stuff is, or has been historically absolutely essential to free and reduced price school lunch programs.    Participants in the WIC program also receive directly or through federal cash subsidies access to some high protein foods in particular.  We also see large amounts of these goods in programs where the US provides good in truly starving parts of the world other than home.

Various levels of government have made the supermarket and restaurant donations charitable contributions suitable as tax deductions and in that way help to support the kinds of food banks you describe.  The churches that very often are the conduits and organizers of such food banks receive favorable tax treatment as well.  I&#039;m all for these government decisions, but I also know that they mean higher taxes for wage earners and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, perhaps avoice is thinking of the food commmodity program whereby the federal government dispenses all the food it has acquired through agricultural price support programs.  Lots of peanut butter, hot dogs, corn meal, cheese, milk, often eggs.  This stuff is, or has been historically absolutely essential to free and reduced price school lunch programs.    Participants in the WIC program also receive directly or through federal cash subsidies access to some high protein foods in particular.  We also see large amounts of these goods in programs where the US provides good in truly starving parts of the world other than home.</p>
<p>Various levels of government have made the supermarket and restaurant donations charitable contributions suitable as tax deductions and in that way help to support the kinds of food banks you describe.  The churches that very often are the conduits and organizers of such food banks receive favorable tax treatment as well.  I&#8217;m all for these government decisions, but I also know that they mean higher taxes for wage earners and others.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note, avoice: I think most food banks are not run by the government.  Certainly the ones around me (Boston area) are not.  The biggest one, at which I have volunteered several times, is independent and mostly privately funded, runs largely on volunteer efforts, gets food donations from supermarkets, restaurants, other organizations and private individuals, buys some of its food with state government money, and feeds hundreds of thousands of hungry people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note, avoice: I think most food banks are not run by the government.  Certainly the ones around me (Boston area) are not.  The biggest one, at which I have volunteered several times, is independent and mostly privately funded, runs largely on volunteer efforts, gets food donations from supermarkets, restaurants, other organizations and private individuals, buys some of its food with state government money, and feeds hundreds of thousands of hungry people.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoice: One doesn&#039;t have to be a seer to know that unemployment is higher than it&#039;s been in 30 years, and that the state of California is on the verge of making severe cuts to the kind of direct aid that you yourself say are increasingly needed in times like this. As for a &quot;trend to starvation,&quot; who&#039;s being alarmist here? Sasha is very explicit about the fact that he&#039;s writing about the debilitating effects of poverty, not large-scale starvation.

If you don&#039;t think it&#039;s a scandal that so many millions people are struggling to feed themselves in a country with probably the highest standard of living in the history of the world, then you certainly are a &quot;glass half full&quot; kind of guy, but the book is about what is happening now, not what Sasha expects to happen after a dam (or a damn) breaks. If anything, I personally think he may in fact be too sanguine about what miseries the next half-century may bring, as we adjust to life without cheap hydrocarbons, but that&#039;s a topic for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoice: One doesn&#8217;t have to be a seer to know that unemployment is higher than it&#8217;s been in 30 years, and that the state of California is on the verge of making severe cuts to the kind of direct aid that you yourself say are increasingly needed in times like this. As for a &#8220;trend to starvation,&#8221; who&#8217;s being alarmist here? Sasha is very explicit about the fact that he&#8217;s writing about the debilitating effects of poverty, not large-scale starvation.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a scandal that so many millions people are struggling to feed themselves in a country with probably the highest standard of living in the history of the world, then you certainly are a &#8220;glass half full&#8221; kind of guy, but the book is about what is happening now, not what Sasha expects to happen after a dam (or a damn) breaks. If anything, I personally think he may in fact be too sanguine about what miseries the next half-century may bring, as we adjust to life without cheap hydrocarbons, but that&#8217;s a topic for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: avoice</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>avoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above, I meant the &quot;dam breaking&quot; I&#039;m pretty sure, although it makes some metaphorical sense as it stands.  Maybe it was a slip of the Freudian finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above, I meant the &#8220;dam breaking&#8221; I&#8217;m pretty sure, although it makes some metaphorical sense as it stands.  Maybe it was a slip of the Freudian finger.</p>
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		<title>By: avoice</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator>avoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche, but I was really commenting on Sasha&#039;s overall &quot;glass half empty&quot; attitude.  Of course, when there&#039;s a fire you pull the alarm, but I don&#039;t see that there is any trend to starvation here in the USA.  That people need to resort to food stamps and private or government run food banks, is not a pleasant thought but I don&#039;t see it as growing issue--I don&#039;t see the damn breaking.  Depressions and recessions increase the need for this kind of direct aid, but that is to be expected.  But then I haven&#039;t read the book, and have just skimmed the links you gave to form this impression.  I may be misjudging your pal. He may be a seer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche, but I was really commenting on Sasha&#8217;s overall &#8220;glass half empty&#8221; attitude.  Of course, when there&#8217;s a fire you pull the alarm, but I don&#8217;t see that there is any trend to starvation here in the USA.  That people need to resort to food stamps and private or government run food banks, is not a pleasant thought but I don&#8217;t see it as growing issue&#8211;I don&#8217;t see the damn breaking.  Depressions and recessions increase the need for this kind of direct aid, but that is to be expected.  But then I haven&#8217;t read the book, and have just skimmed the links you gave to form this impression.  I may be misjudging your pal. He may be a seer.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2649</link>
		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ng: Thanks!

eric: Since I&#039;m only 50 pages in, I can&#039;t say much about the &quot;how to fix it&quot; part yet, but so far the solutions mentioned have involved a strengthening of the safety net, but not any wholesale overhaul of society. I know that later parts of the book get more into the horrors of our WalMartized economy, and based on the Truthdig interview, it sounds like Sasha yearns for a government that doesn&#039;t instinctively favor corporate executives over the struggling masses (&quot;Empathy&quot; as government policy! Imagine that!). 

avoice: If pulling a fire alarm when there&#039;s a fire makes one an &quot;alarmist,&quot; then sure. It&#039;s easy to be complacent if you&#039;re not one of the 25 million people who rely on food banks for breakfast or dinner because they&#039;ve already eaten the &quot;just in case&quot; Campbell&#039;s soup in the pantry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ng: Thanks!</p>
<p>eric: Since I&#8217;m only 50 pages in, I can&#8217;t say much about the &#8220;how to fix it&#8221; part yet, but so far the solutions mentioned have involved a strengthening of the safety net, but not any wholesale overhaul of society. I know that later parts of the book get more into the horrors of our WalMartized economy, and based on the Truthdig interview, it sounds like Sasha yearns for a government that doesn&#8217;t instinctively favor corporate executives over the struggling masses (&#8220;Empathy&#8221; as government policy! Imagine that!). </p>
<p>avoice: If pulling a fire alarm when there&#8217;s a fire makes one an &#8220;alarmist,&#8221; then sure. It&#8217;s easy to be complacent if you&#8217;re not one of the 25 million people who rely on food banks for breakfast or dinner because they&#8217;ve already eaten the &#8220;just in case&#8221; Campbell&#8217;s soup in the pantry.</p>
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		<title>By: avoice</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2645</link>
		<dc:creator>avoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your pal, Sasha, seems to be a bit of a professional alarmist.  But it couldn&#039;t hurt to store away some Campbell&#039;s soup cans in the pantry, just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your pal, Sasha, seems to be a bit of a professional alarmist.  But it couldn&#8217;t hurt to store away some Campbell&#8217;s soup cans in the pantry, just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 12:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to reading it.  I&#039;m especially curious about the &quot;how to fix it&quot; part; I imagine, from David&#039;s Anna Karenina analogy, that the solution will require a complete overhaul of Russian--I mean American--society...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to reading it.  I&#8217;m especially curious about the &#8220;how to fix it&#8221; part; I imagine, from David&#8217;s Anna Karenina analogy, that the solution will require a complete overhaul of Russian&#8211;I mean American&#8211;society&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ng</title>
		<link>http://www.fragmentaryevidence.com/2009/05/30/hunger-in-america/#comment-2628</link>
		<dc:creator>ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a very informative and well-written review.  I&#039;m getting the book, and hope lots of people read it and get active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a very informative and well-written review.  I&#8217;m getting the book, and hope lots of people read it and get active.</p>
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